Following the disappointing loss to Wake Forest we put out a tweet asking WPN for their thoughts on the state of the program. It really is an excellent thread with a variety of perspectives that you should check out if you missed. I feel like the majority of NC State fans are on the same page and think Dave Doeren is doing good things but I also feel most of us on that side could be convinced the other way.
So we wanted to embed the reactions as things get missed on twitter very fast and there was some good replies. We broke them down to 3 categories: Supportive, On-the-Fence, “Bust out the tiki torches we’re burning this mofo down!”
i've always wondered if "shooting oneself in the foot" is a characteristic of Doeren-led teams. Seems to be. I wonder how you fix something like that. No idea.
— James Auman (@jrauman) November 19, 2017
Also, remember when Clemsoning was a thing? I genuinely believe that’s where we are in the process at this given moment.
— Danny Lampron (@dannybob20) November 19, 2017
DD has shown he can recruit. He's been a head coach all of what, 7 years? He's learning. You're seeing tangible progress. He promised he'd compete with the Clemson's & FSU. He's doing that
— James Cunningham (@JamesIV1978) November 19, 2017
Honestly DD is building he program, he finally has his players in and playing… in my opinion we can Hux and go after Mike Houston at JMU as DC and next year with the addition of another coach go after a Special Team coach
— Christopher Bagale (@Wolf_Pack_fan) November 19, 2017
I think next season is a good opportunity to reset the DC. Have to replace front 6 due to graduation, you’ll have some injection of DB talent with the UT transfer and juco. Look for someone outperforming station – like Brown was at BC
— Baxter (@BaxterCavendish) November 19, 2017
Personally, I think offense is more of the problem than the defense. Awful decision on defensive switches tonight, but as a rule, the defense has held most opponents under their “norm”. Each loss the defense has held opponents to 30 or less (excluding ST). That should
— Matthew Watkins (@matthewewatkins) November 19, 2017
5-6 conference wins, in contention to reach the ACC championship game, first tier bowl games – these are what State fans have been wanting for years, and DD got us there.
— Doug Schneider (@Race4caster) November 19, 2017
Continuity is best for a program like State. Allow DD to build, State hasn’t done that before and it’s not worked. If people can’t see progress they are blind. As for Hux, tonight wasn’t on him. Hell this was SC all over!
— Stephen Apple (@apple_stephen) November 19, 2017
I think you have to stick with DD. He has built a competitive, physical and tough program. The defense held Wake to 337 yards last night we just don't make the plays to win these close games. We have depth, playmakers, and we have good young players and solid recruiting class.
— Haze Lancaster (@lazehancaster) November 19, 2017
Can't Fire DD right now. UT and Florida are open with other big 💰 programs possible. Upgrade at DC is needed for sure. OC has been good at times but struggles when he gets too cute. Imho, jury is still out on him. Team was in position to win. That's all the coaches can do.
— Derrick Dudley (@NCSURkTScIeNcE) November 19, 2017
Honestly not sold on DDs ceiling, but do really like how he has built a TEAM. Some questionable decisions but I can live w/them for now. Hux – should have been gone yrs ago. Need special teams coach. Need more in game adjustments (ex Ingram)
— William Deitrick (@wmdeitrick) November 19, 2017
I'm not a fan wanting to fire DD …let that be clear because I agree we do not want to hit the reset button …I just want a change of luck one of these days I guess…could upgrade on defensive coordinator
— Kyle Herring (@KyleHerring10) November 19, 2017
The staff has to be shaken up, you have got to fix the defense and ST issues that have been there for years: usually at least one 40+ yd play given up per game, a frequent inability to get key stops on 3rd down, terrible kicking, and poor kick coverage.
— Mr Rictus (@misterrictus) November 19, 2017
Honestly…I don’t know. DD is good if you’re okay with a lower ceiling. But if you want to shoot high…I don’t know
— Zach Yonk (@ztyonk) November 19, 2017
Since we lack a legitimate between the tackle RB. We keep trying to manufacture a running game because our depth at the position is bad. Need more depth. We haven't been able to overcome the Johnny Frazier bust
— Turbo Pack (@turbopack33) November 19, 2017
I just feel discouraged b/c it feels like everything came together and we'll only win 8 games. DD's shown progress each yr. Fire him and we start over again, stupid. He is building. Yea, Hux needs to go.
— Tucker Blankinship (@TuckerBlanc) November 19, 2017
I'm really frustrated with play calling. My gut says DD is right guy. I feel like he's building a good foundation, at least. Incoming talent looks good and I believe culture itself has taken a step forward from TOB (albeit not much room to go back)
— charlieyoung73 (@charlieyoung73) November 19, 2017
— Sonic Wolf (@Sonic_Wolf24) November 19, 2017
Ok so when we have another 7-5 season another 4 years in a row then what?
— Kyle Herring (@KyleHerring10) November 19, 2017
Has DD built up depth and a future of possible success? Sure. Am I any kind of confident we can win close games and get over the hump with this staff? No.
Do not think DD is the answer. Not sure who we’d be able to realistically target though
— Bill O'Donnell (@WROncsu) November 19, 2017
Yeah, big issue for me too. He is a prick to fans. Win something significant and maybe you can do that and hold support. But treat us like scrap AND under perform? Joke
— Brigmann Bailey (@beetlehound1) November 20, 2017
Strangest thought of all: expand funding for non-coaching support staff. Things like analytics and recruiting talent evaluators. Coaches only get maybe 20hrs/week with the kids, so incoming talent level and situational decision making (analytics) make real differences
— James Cox (@jrcox4) November 19, 2017
Yup, and that staff, plus the additional staff to scout/game plan, are what the “blue bloods” have that we lack. The coaches on staff are only as good as the information provided to them by the support staff, improve that information, and you hopefully improve on the field
— James Cox (@jrcox4) November 19, 2017
There are and one is running the DL in the NFL
— 🔴⚪️4life🐺 (@glasswolf54) November 19, 2017
That’s fair. It appears your concern is with the secondary, not the d-line, which is something I share. I think the line is solid next year still, but I agree with you that it won’t be enough to compensate for poor play on the back end
— Alec Lower (@AlecLower) November 19, 2017
I think this class coming in is going to be as special as that class. If the o line comes back minus Adams. All the rest are red shirt JR's the offense will be good. We'll be a top 25 team next yr because of that offense
— James Cunningham (@JamesIV1978) November 19, 2017
Hux needs to go and go to a 4-3. Hire ryan Nielsen as DC. He took a 3* young man and made him into the most dominant d lineman in college football. He made the line what it is. 4-2-5 doesn't work. Unc played same style and had worst D. Went to 4-3 following year and won 10 games.
— Brandon Black (@backinblack_wx) November 19, 2017
Dabo wasn’t afraid to upgrade his coordinators. First Morris then Venables. That’s what took Clemson from good to great.
— Matt Murphy (@the_mattmurphy) November 19, 2017
BEAR DOWN on these balls Sean Miller!!!!
— Red and White (@RedWhitePodcast) November 23, 2017
Did the Buzzfeed-esque headline work? Well here is a too-long-didn’t-read version as compensation.
TL;DR – The numbers bear out the narrative that we have been an average ACC defense over the last 3 seasons, and our 2015 and 2016 OOC schedules made our defense look way better than what it really was, especially in ACC play.
First, let’s start off with the basic defensive stats from the last 3 seasons in addition to the national rankings:
So as you can see here, we had a top 30 nationally ranked defense in 2015 and 2016 in terms of total yards allowed per game. Additionally, we had a top 30 scoring defense in 2016. You will notice the numbers from 2017 do not appear to be as strong as the 2015 and 2016 numbers, but it should be noted NC State has 2 more games to play (UNC+Bowl) so there is the opportunity for these numbers to improve or worsen.
So why are the numbers worse in 2017? The simple answer is: because of the statistics from the 2017 out of conference (OOC) games. Overall, we played a stronger OOC this year than we did in 2015 and 2016. Additionally, 2016 had the Hurricane Matthew game to skew the stats in the favor of our defense.
The 2015 OOC featured Troy, Eastern Kentucky, Old Dominion, and South Alabama which is very different from South Carolina, Notre Dame, Marshall, and Furman.
This is evident in the outcomes of the games (2-2 vs. 4-0) and in the underlying statistics from those games. The regular OOC schedule accounts for 4/13 games or 30% of the schedule, which means the regular season OOC can drastically affect defensive statistics on a per game basis.
In 2017, NC State’s defense has allowed 38% more total yards to opponents than in 2016, and 47% more points to regular season OOC opponents. The increase is more drastic if you compare 2017 to 2015.
So now we must discuss how we can more fairly assess NC State’s defense given the regular season OOC variability.
Yes, all Power5 Conference schools play cupcakes in their regular season OOC schedule.
Yes, the NCAA has changed the rules regarding OOC scheduling to reduce the number of cupcakes on the regular season OOC schedule.
The simple solution is to look at statistics only from ACC conference games, and to compare those stats to other ACC teams. This makes sense on many levels because every season we play 7 fixed opponents (UNC + Atlantic div) and 1 rotating Coastal Division opponent thus giving us a level of consistency. Additionally, the ACC is our peer group, so we should compare ourselves to the schools we are competing against each week on the field and off the field.
When you look at NC State’s defense vs. ACC opponents, a picture begins to emerge of a defense that is not in the upper 25% like the national rankings would suggest, but it is instead just an average ACC defense in terms of yards per game allowed and points per game allowed.
If you want to point out that the Atlantic Division is more competitive than the Coastal Division, I showed how NC State’s defense ranks compared to other Atlantic Division teams, with 7 being the worst team. Of note, over the 3 years, Syracuse consistently had the worst defense in the division.
As I outlined a year ago, teams are choosing to attack our defense with the pass instead of running the ball. In 2016 against ACC teams, NC State’s defense saw the fewest number of rushing attempts in conference, and in 2017 we have seen the second fewest.
Our defense is allowing a stingy 3.9 yards per carry in 2017, but that ties us with 3 other schools, and puts us ahead of 7 other schools. Just as in 2016, NC State’s defense is on pace to face one of the highest numbers of pass attempts in the ACC during the 2017 campaign.
Although the yards allowed per game has decreased slightly, it should be noted that there is a significant reduction in points per game allowed to ACC opponents over the last 3 years. This lends itself to the “bend don’t break” defensive narrative that surrounds Defensive Coordinator Dave Huxtable.
In 2017, NC State has the 3rd worst passing defense, in terms of passing yards allowed per game, BUT we are tied with Duke for 2nd best in the fewest passing TDs allowed (8) and we are in the middle of the pack for the number of rushing TDs allowed (11). So that is how you end up with a scoring defense in the middle of the ACC pack my friends.
*This is a guest post from friend of the program StatboyMatt. In future posts we will take a look at explosive plays and the record number of guys who have career days against Huxtable’s defenses.
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It’s only day 2 of the NC State basketball “coaching search even though we still have a coach through the end of the season” and I’m already at wits end. I’m sure I’m not the only one either. It’s just that time of year again when the national media tells the world how crazy we are to want to be better than the status quo. It’s exhausting. It’s also a lazy narrative that guys like Gary Parish, Jeff Goodman, et al will beat down our throats no matter what but I’ll get back to them. It was Jay Bilas who I didn’t expect to come at us like he did this morning.
The Indiana University podcast gets its.
It really is unreasonable of NC State fans and administrators to aspire to do better than the status quo. How silly of them. https://t.co/4OBkhMMxS8
— CrimsonCast (@CrimsonCast) February 17, 2017
But back to Bilas….here’s one of his tweets at us.
Also a fact, in the 20 years prior to Gottfried's arrival at NC State, the 'Pack went to 5 NCAA Tournaments, winning 5 games, 1 Sweet 16.
— Jay Bilas (@JayBilas) February 17, 2017
Well, all those things are true but as news goes these days you can consider them ‘alternative facts.’ Mark Gottfried was not fired for his past performance, he was fired for the direction the program was headed. For those that struggle to understand this, we put a little chart together. This is Mark Gottfried’s ACC win percentage (including current year 3-11).
I’m not sure I need to put anymore numbers together but I will to drive this point home.
Where was NC State basketball going to go after this season if they kept Gottfried? That's the reason he has no job, not his track record.
— Austin Johnson (@austin_johnson) February 17, 2017
Time to play…NC STATE NATIONAL MEDIA TAKE BINGO!!! pic.twitter.com/S8ZDAwJWkI
— Joe Ovies (@joeovies) February 17, 2017
Here’s another one the national media loves and Bilas fell in line with this morning…
Also a fact, during Gottfried's tenure, Duke and UNC: 5 NCAA bids. NC State, UVa, UofL and Syracuse: 4 NCAA bids. Rest of ACC: 3 or fewer.
— Jay Bilas (@JayBilas) February 17, 2017
We’ve said it about 100 times on the podcast. It’s all about what you use to define your metric for success. In life and in business, you wouldn’t go through your day-to-day routine if you didn’t have a metric for success. Whether it be more sales or in the media’s case, more clicks, you have define your target and how you measure success.
For a program that has two national titles, multiple-ACC Championships, NCAA tournaments appearances is not the metric that defines success for the fan base. We are steeped with ACC history and folks on Tobacco road, sans Roy, hold the ACC Tournament and ACC Championships in the highest regard. Folks on the outside don’t get that. We, Dustin and I, believe that metric for success is competing in the ACC. That doesn’t mean that you should be winning the ACC every year, no one has that expectation despite what the fake news would lead you to believe. Competing means fighting to be in the top-5 of the ACC on a regular basis. If you’re doing that then you’re doing enough to be a top 25 program and every once in a while the stars will align and you’ll be fighting for the ACC Championship. **Side note, I wish someone with access would ask Debbie Yow what her metric for success is for basketball.**
Gary Parish’s article (which we will not link to because of the excessive ads and autoplay videos) used, Jim Larranaga as a comparison for Mark Gottfried as they were hired at similar time.
Mark Gottfried and Jim Larranaga got hired 17 days apart at NC State and Miami back in 2011. When this season is over, Gottfried will have made four NCAA Tournaments and two Sweet 16s. And he got fired two days after Valentine’s Day. Meantime, even if Larranaga makes the NCAA Tournament this season, his first six years at Miami will amount to three NCAA Tournament appearances and, more than likely, two Sweet 16s. And Larranaga has a contract through 2022 that nobody has even thought of buying out. He couldn’t be more comfortable in Coral Gables.
Two ACC jobs.
So what is wrong with this statement? In theory, nothing as it makes sense but Gary fails to mention that Larranaga has won an ACC Title, their first in school history, of course he’s safe from persecution. In addition, one of those two men did not go 5-13 last year with a similar result on the horizon this year. It is short sighted and lazy.
@RedWhitePodcast he compared to Larranaga. That's not apples to apples. If he had the same talent and performed as poorly, he'd be gone too
— Andrew Siler (@lil_siler012) February 17, 2017
More from ESPN – ‘You’re not going to compete with the likes of Duke and UNC talent-wise’
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Ahh this is the other one that gets thrown anytime basketball gets mentioned. Alec Lower at BackingthePack said this
Over the last five years State’s recruiting classes have had an average finish (according to 247sports.com) of 20.8. This is actually higher than UNC’s average finish of 22.8 and reasonably close to Duke’s 9.8 over the same time period. Gottfried has proven talent acquisition is a total non-issue in Raleigh
For those of you who need pretty visuals…..
As you can see, Gottman could recruit, on par with the top programs in the area and even a bit better than UNC over the same period….
The problem then appears with the output from those recruiting classes. An average of 7.6 wins why the Heels and Devils were 12 and 12.4 respectively.
If you think State fan wanting consistency is asking for too much b/c of Sweet 16s, then you're just set on thinking State fan is crazy.
— Lauren Brownlow (@lebrownlow) February 17, 2017
And I’ll leave you with this one from @JamesCurle
My standing response to most columns from national media in regards to our coaching search: pic.twitter.com/JkxNXtIkCc
— James Curle (@JamesCurle) February 17, 2017
Watching our team dominate Vanderbilt in the Independence Bowl, I loved seeing our front 6 dominate the line of scrimmage against an ACC opponent. With the news that Josh Jones is going pro, and Bradley Chubb may soon follow, I wanted to look reflect on this year’s biggest success as a jumping off point for next year’s team. NC State’s defense was ranked number 4 nationally against the run in 2016, which is quite a feat, and it provides a great talking point for the coaching staff during final recruiting push.
But was our defense elite against the run in 2016, or is there more to the story when you sift through the numbers? According to www.teamrankings.com NC State played the 32 nd hardest overall schedule in 2016, and our out of conference strength of schedule was ranked 51 st . It should be noted that those rankings include our bowl game against Vanderbilt. Given how weak our out of conference schedule turned out to be this year, I decided to look at our 8 conference games this season and compare NC State’s defense to its peers. In my opinion, this was the best way to do an apples to apples comparison because these statistics were generated playing against the teams we are comparing NC State to.
In conference play, NC State was not the number one ranked rushing defense based on average rushing yards/game. Louisville was number one with 103.9 yards/game and NC State was second with 108.8yards per game in their 8 conference games. To NC State’s credit, they did hold teams to a 3.4 yards/carry average over those 8 conference games, which was the second best only behind Louisville.
It should be noted though, that NC State may have had the second lowest rushing yards per game because the NC State defense faced the fewest number of rushing attempts (258) in the ACC during conference play.
In terms of total defense in conference play, NC State was quite average, finishing at number seven with 403.1 yards per game. NC State had the second worst ACC pass defense at 294.4 yards/game, finishing only ahead of Pitt who gave up 360.8 yards/game in the air. NC State faced the second most pass attempts in ACC play (309), again only finishing ahead of Pitt (368). So, it is fair to say that ACC Offensive Coordinators chose to abandon the run game in favor of the passing game, picking on NC State’s passing defense that was ranked 9 th in ACC pass defense efficiency.
At the end of the day, the goal of the defense is to prevent the other team from scoring and in ACC play NC State gave up 25.9 points per game, good for 7 th in the conference, the same ranking we achieved in total defense based on yards/game. This mediocrity is even more amazing when you dig deeper into our red zone defense. Our red zone defensive efficiency was ranked 11 th in the ACC allowing opponents to score 87.9% of the time they entered the red zone. NC State actually gave up 135 points in the red zone, ranked tenth, only finishing ahead of Pitt, BC, UNC-Ch, and Syracuse. Only UNC-CH, Syracuse, and Pitt allowed more trips to the red zone in conference games than NC State. The one bright spot is that NC State had the lowest touchdown percentage of all of the ACC teams, at 48.5%, but opposing kicker were 13-14 in FG attempts, which leads us to a different discussion about kicking.
After reviewing the statistics, it is reasonable to conclude that the overall NC State defense was just average in conference play; the result of an above average run defense and a below average pass defense. If Dave Doeren wants to improve his 9-23 career ACC record or his 1-22*record against Power 5 Schools with a winning record, his coaching staff will need to improve the defense against the pass.
This may be a tall order given the loss of Josh Jones and potential loss of Bradley Chubb, who accounted for approximately 1/3 of NC State’s sacks in conference play.
*Possibly 2-22 if Wake wins their bowl game today.
Here is the referenced spreadsheet
It’s no doubt that Dave Doeren’s job status is a polarizing topic among NC State fans. Even after whipping UNC early and almost letting another game slip away the fan base is 75% ready for a change and 25% willing to give him another year. We found a few fans who believe DD should get another year and asked them to write up their thoughts.
James Curle, @JamesCurle
Every time I try to assert definitively why we should keep Dave Doeren, I can’t shake the reasons why we shouldn’t. That’s the problem with this debate: it’s as close to a 50/50 decision as I can recall in some time.
Why should we keep him? Well, we’ve been close in some big games this year. Real close. The missed field goal against Clemson was as devastating a play to a season (and perhaps a coach’s career) as you can imagine. A dropped interception in the end zone at the end of the FSU game was similarly devastating to our chances of winning that game. Some missed field goals against ECU probably cost us that game. The line between 5-6 and 8-3 is so razor thin for this team. Some years you have all those plays break your way; it seems this year they’ve all broke against us. I would much rather be close and in a position to receive those breaks than to be noncompetitive or starting over.
Why shouldn’t we keep him? Two big reasons that make a ton of sense for me are the favorable hiring market for head coaches and that waiting one more year pushes you closer to Debbie’s retirement time-frame of 2019. If you make a move now versus after 2017 (if warranted), you stand a better-than-average chance to upgrade your coaching staff and give him a little time to get settled in with Debbie before she hands the reigns off to a new AD. Waiting another year might mean your pool of coaches at your disposal might be more “shallow” and the hiring time-frame only gets more complicated as it relates to Debbie transitioning power to a new AD.
Since I’m on the fence but have to chose a side, I ultimately side with keeping him one more year. Yes, the track record is abysmal, but I do truly believe this team is close to breaking through. The roster should be Doeren’s best. Doeren is still a new head coach, experience-wise, and his two years at NIU weren’t nearly as difficult as his four at State have been, so I think he’s still catching up to the Power 5 learning curve. I’m not saying he needs another five to catch up to said learning curve, but I think he has learned a great deal from this season. And since I’ve always believed in giving football coaches five years as a bare minimum to eliminate any and all excuses for judging a coach, I’m sticking with that if for no other reason than the .
That said, if a change is made, I won’t be sad or surprised. The fanbase–particularly the ones who pay the bills in the way of Wolfpack Club dues, lifetime rights, tickets, parking passes and concessions–are reaching a point where apathy could be more financially costly than making a change a year ahead of my personal beliefs of how long a coach should have to prove himself.
Stephen Shepard, @sshep28
When Coach D took over our program it was at the lowest point it’s been in a while. TOB left the cupboard bare. We didn’t even have a QB. So you can’t really count the 1st year of Coach D’s tenure. He also couldn’t really get the recruits he wanted till the second year. So we are really only talking about 2 years now. If you look at talent level it has gotten tremendously better. We lined up against Clemson and Florida State and whipped them man for man and the recruiting is continuing.
If a couple plays go different, which Coach couldn’t control, everyone would be talking totally different. People say he should of switched kickers earlier…I’ve watched Bambard pre-game and between halves drill every kick and I’m sure that’s what the coaches see everyday. Remember your dealing with 18-22 year old kids that people want to berate and our fans are some of the worst for doing that. Coaches are here to not just win but build kids into men.
I agree the offense is not good. This is Drinks first year and hopefully things will open up a little next year. If D has his thumb to much on offense and that’s the problem then something needs to be done but another year is warranted.
You also have to look at who can we get that’s better. Coaches don’t want to go to a place where the fan base is whining after 2 years of bowl games and having a few bad breaks from being 3 and still could be.
Our fans need to relax…support the kids and staff and see what happens. I think he’s building something and we will see if he can push it over the top and if he cant..then you make the move and hope and pray that the grass is greener on the other side. Usually it’s not.
In the meantime show the players and hopeful recruits that we are a positive fan base and not the negative one that everyone talks about.
Just my two cents.
Feel free to let us know what you think in the comments or on the Twitter.
One of the most commonly used arguments in the ‘Keep Dave Doeren’ conversation is the thought that he’s elevated NC State recruiting to the next level. There are two reasons for this:
Dustin and I have fallen into this trap as well but a loyal listener, would rather remain anonymous tried to set the record straight as he had some spare time in the hunting stand. NC State fans are the best.
The following is from Mr. Deer Blind Pack Fan:
So I was sitting in my deer blind today, stewing over the football season, and I started thinking about all of the narratives surrounding DD and his tenure at NC State. One narrative I wanted to investigate, was the narrative that DD is a good recruiter.
So I made this spreadsheet using data from Rivals.com. I looked at DD, TOB, and CTC and their recruiting rankings. I ordered the data based on their coaching year, with “T” being the transitional year where they were hired and they had to throw a recruiting class together over a month, and “Year 1” being their first full recruiting class. I looked at the number of 4/5 star recruits signed, and the class rankings relative to college football and the ACC.
You will see that DD and TOB had very similar recruiting success during their first 3 full recruiting classes (years 1-3) after their transitional classes. TOB’s recruiting fell off in years 4 and 5, and it looks like DD’s year 4 class might face a similar fate now that he can no longer sell immediate playing time, his record at NIU, or other recruiting pitches that work early on. Also, Chuck the Chest (CTC) lost his recruiting touch in his final years as well, especially in relation to other ACC recruiting classes.
I enrolled in Fall 1998 at NC State. You know how many football wins we had that year? Seven. We also beat No. 2 Florida State AND No. 11 Syracuse. Mike Fucking O’Cain won seven games and beat two top 15 ranked opponents.
Since then year, we have spent over $100,000,000.00 upgrading Carter Finley’s football facilities. We built an indoor practice facility. We are setting season ticket sales records. We are paying our football coaching staff well over 3 million dollars per year. Yet, with all that effort, we will win fewer games in 2016 than we did in 1998 when Mike O’Cain was our coach.
Given all the effort to elevate our program, following statistics are unacceptable under DD:
Thank you for your time. I enjoy your show. I’m out.
Here’s his attached spreadsheet
easy to read graphs:
Dan Wolken from The Football Four podcast has been watching the NC State job before the BC loss. We asked him a question about who would fit at NC State. Here’s what he said: (2 minute listen)[soundcloud url=”https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/291019804″ params=”color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false” width=”100%” height=”166″ iframe=”true” /]
If anyone wants it for reference. Here it is.
The part you’re probably looking for:
There are some other interesting things like: He gets one meal a day at the Murphy? (one?) Cars, and Club Memberships.