The Overall State of the Football Program as Seen by NC State fans

Following the disappointing loss to Wake Forest we put out a tweet asking WPN for their thoughts on the state of the program. It really is an excellent thread with a variety of perspectives that you should check out if you missed. I feel like the majority of NC State fans are on the same page and think Dave Doeren is doing good things but I also feel most of us on that side could be convinced the other way.

So we wanted to embed the reactions  as things get missed on twitter very fast and there was some good replies. We broke them down to 3 categories: Supportive, On-the-Fence, “Bust out the tiki torches we’re burning this mofo down!”

Supportive

On-The-Fence

Bust out the tiki torches we’re burning this mofo down!

And some other good thoughts:

PS –

We dove deep into the defensive numbers and what we found will shock you!

Did the Buzzfeed-esque headline work? Well here is a too-long-didn’t-read version as compensation.

TL;DR – The numbers bear out the narrative that we have been an average ACC defense over the last 3 seasons, and our 2015 and 2016 OOC schedules made our defense look way better than what it really was, especially in ACC play.

First, let’s start off with the basic defensive stats from the last 3 seasons in addition to the national rankings:

  1. Total defense (total yards/game)
  2. Scoring defense (points allowed per game)

So as you can see here, we had a top 30 nationally ranked defense in 2015 and 2016 in terms of total yards allowed per game.  Additionally, we had a top 30 scoring defense in 2016.  You will notice the numbers from 2017 do not appear to be as strong as the 2015 and 2016 numbers, but it should be noted NC State has 2 more games to play (UNC+Bowl) so there is the opportunity for these numbers  to improve or worsen.

So why are the numbers worse in 2017?  The simple answer is: because of the statistics from the 2017 out of conference (OOC) games.  Overall, we played a stronger OOC this year than we did in 2015 and 2016.  Additionally, 2016 had the Hurricane Matthew game to skew the stats in the favor of our defense.

The 2015 OOC featured Troy, Eastern Kentucky, Old Dominion, and South Alabama which is very different from South Carolina, Notre Dame, Marshall, and Furman.

This is evident in the outcomes of the games (2-2 vs. 4-0) and in the underlying statistics from those games.  The regular OOC schedule accounts for 4/13 games or 30% of the schedule, which means the regular season OOC can drastically affect defensive statistics on a per game basis.

In 2017, NC State’s defense has allowed 38% more total yards to opponents than in 2016, and 47% more points to regular season OOC opponents.  The increase is more drastic if you compare 2017 to 2015.

So now we must discuss how we can more fairly assess NC State’s defense given the regular season OOC variability.

Yes, all Power5 Conference schools play cupcakes in their regular season OOC schedule.

Yes, the NCAA has changed the rules regarding OOC scheduling to reduce the number of cupcakes on the regular season OOC schedule.

The simple solution is to look at statistics only from ACC conference games, and to compare those stats to other ACC teams.  This makes sense on many levels because every season we play 7 fixed opponents (UNC + Atlantic div) and 1 rotating Coastal Division opponent thus giving us a level of consistency.  Additionally, the ACC is our peer group, so we should compare ourselves to the schools we are competing against each week on the field and off the field.

When you look at NC State’s defense vs. ACC opponents, a picture begins to emerge of a defense that is not in the upper 25% like the national rankings would suggest, but it is instead just an average ACC defense in terms of yards per game allowed and points per game allowed.

If you want to point out that the Atlantic Division is more competitive than the Coastal Division, I showed how NC State’s defense ranks compared to other Atlantic Division teams, with 7 being the worst team.  Of note, over the 3 years, Syracuse consistently had the worst defense in the division.

As I outlined a year ago, teams are choosing to attack our defense with the pass instead of running the ball.  In 2016 against ACC teams, NC State’s defense saw the fewest number of rushing attempts in conference, and in 2017 we have seen the second fewest.

Our defense is allowing a stingy 3.9 yards per carry in 2017, but that ties us with 3 other schools, and puts us ahead of 7 other schools.  Just as in 2016, NC State’s defense is on pace to face one of the highest numbers of pass attempts in the ACC during the 2017 campaign.

Although the yards allowed per game has decreased slightly, it should be noted that there is a significant reduction in points per game allowed to ACC opponents over the last 3 years.  This lends itself to the “bend don’t break” defensive narrative that surrounds Defensive Coordinator Dave Huxtable. 

In 2017, NC State has the 3rd worst passing defense, in terms of passing yards allowed per game, BUT we are tied with Duke for 2nd best in the fewest passing TDs allowed (8) and we are in the middle of the pack for the number of rushing TDs allowed (11).  So that is how you end up with a scoring defense in the middle of the ACC pack my friends.

*This is a guest post from friend of the program StatboyMatt.  In future posts we will take a look at explosive plays and the record number of guys who have career days against Huxtable’s defenses.

Ep 62 – 2017 – Wake, UNC. WPN Rallies, DD

Topics
DD to Miss. St?
Losing to Wake sucked
Hardcore Def. Analysis
Carolina Sucks
Coaching Madness
Net Neutrality
@ER’s motivational speech
@JdustinHill’s Billboard
#grumors
Oh yea and the State of DD and the program

Ep 60 – 2017 – Closing the Laptop on Clemson – On to BC

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Ep 59 – 2017 – Notre…Damn it – Clemson

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Ep 56 – 2017 – Bye Week Edition

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Intro
* Dustin back. Thanks for the concern while in Vegas. Apologize for the voice and coughing as I’ve been sick for going on two weeks.
* thanks for all the audio feedback, it will help us get better.

Pitt Review
* Started slow, still found a way to win
* great second half (held pitt to only a FG)
* Narduzzi, why the hell did he switch QBs?
* That’s why he’s on a career trajectory that has him at Pitt.

Bye Week Goals
* Get healthy – no one listed on the injury report outside of the guys out for the year but still bumps and bruises. Perfect timing.
* watch teams in front of us lose
* ND vs USC
* ND guys saying this is their toughest stretch of games in history. USC, State, Wake, Miami, Navy, Stanford
* D – ND win against USC would be nice?
* Clemson vs GT

Misc
* Nebraska hires the Wash St AD, general theory is they want leach. Good fit? What would AD Dustin do?
* Got to talk about it and we hope to have a special edition with WolfpackPatrol, UNC Skates. Thoughts?
*
Canada Watch
* 2 wins over ranked teams in a row! Beat Auburn 27-23. 206 in the air and 157 on the ground. In comparison Auburn had 165 in the air and 189 on the ground. Just that kind of game.
Lock of the Week
* – Don’t remember what mine was but I’m sure it was right!
* D – Bama is going off at 34.5 or 35 against UT and I want to take them but I won’t. Louisville +6.5 at FSU is hard to turn down. They’ll rebound after last week. I don’t think they’re great but they still have a Heisman trophy winner as QB1. FSU still hasn’t done much.
* E –
Top 4
* D – 1. Bama, 2. UGA, 3. PSU, 4. TCU
* E – 1. Bama 2. UGA 3. PSU 4. Clemson w/Bryant

Ep 55. – 2017 – Best Night in CF History?

Once again Dave from Carter-Finely (Website | Twitter ) joins the show to break down the game against Louisville and a look ahead to Pitt.

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